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Question 34171: Quotient of Permutation and Combination Counts

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  1. Original question and givens
  2. Definition and scope
  3. Step-by-step derivation
  4. Reverse checks
  5. Result
  6. This question review and source binding

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R0067-34171 · q-20260930-r06-permutation-combination-quotient-0021

Original question and givens

For selection of k=8 distinct objects without replacement from n=8, compute the exact integer quotient P(n,k)/C(n,k). The empty selection counts once.

  • G001 — For selection of k=8 distinct objects without replacement from n=8, compute the exact integer quotient P(n,k)/C(n,k). The empty selection counts once.

Definition and scope

Use the original question domain, assumptions and cited MKO definitions. This item has second-context mathematical and bilingual review, with the model, answer and every arithmetic step independently recomputed from the original parameters; the source question remains a candidate.

Step-by-step derivation

S001 · implies

Before

source roles = [qf-permutation-combination-quotient, [k, n, operation]]

After

derived = [quotient, no-invented-domain]

Conditions: none

Check THIS bank’s keys/operation/domain:legacy table underscores,MOD50 local hyphens;permissive BASE data acquires no unknown-field restriction.Keep Number.isInteger and SAFE source guards distinct,while preserving ORIGINAL JSON number representations.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: R67_SOURCE_specific_keys_operation_domain_and_numeric_bank · Uses: G001

S002 · implies

Before

source roles = [8, 8]

After

derived = [[8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1], 1]

Conditions: none

Choose ordered positions from n DISTINCT objects WITHOUT replacement.Position i has n−i+1 choices.For k=0,the empty selection counts ONCE and the product starts at1.THIS bank permits n≤200,not another bank’s32/64 cap.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: Selection_DISTINCT_no_replacement_order_and_EMPTY_convention · Uses: G001, S001

S003 · calculation

Before

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position1 := mul(1, 8)

After

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position1 = 8

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S002

S004 · calculation

Before

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position2 := mul(8, 7)

After

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position2 = 56

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S003

S005 · calculation

Before

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position3 := mul(56, 6)

After

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position3 = 336

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S004

S006 · calculation

Before

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position4 := mul(336, 5)

After

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position4 = 1680

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S005

S007 · calculation

Before

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position5 := mul(1680, 4)

After

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position5 = 6720

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S006

S008 · calculation

Before

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position6 := mul(6720, 3)

After

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position6 = 20160

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S007

S009 · calculation

Before

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position7 := mul(20160, 2)

After

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position7 = 40320

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S008

S010 · calculation

Before

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position8 := mul(40320, 1)

After

Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position8 = 40320

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S009

S011 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor1 := mul(1, 1)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor1 = 1

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S010

S012 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor2 := mul(1, 2)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor2 = 2

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S011

S013 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor3 := mul(2, 3)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor3 = 6

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S012

S014 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor4 := mul(6, 4)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor4 = 24

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S013

S015 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor5 := mul(24, 5)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor5 = 120

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S014

S016 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor6 := mul(120, 6)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor6 = 720

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S015

S017 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor7 := mul(720, 7)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor7 = 5040

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S016

S018 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor8 := mul(5040, 8)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor8 = 40320

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S017

S019 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL permutations divided by subset orderings := div(40320, 40320)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL permutations divided by subset orderings = 1

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S018

S020 · calculation

Before

Quotient ORIGINAL permutations over combinations := div(40320, 1)

After

Quotient ORIGINAL permutations over combinations = 40320

Conditions: none

Calculate exactly from ORIGINAL ordered operands.Legacy derived integers are not recapped at the RAW SAFE bound;MOD50 rationals separately retain the NAIVE pre-reduction source envelope.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S019

S021 · implies

Before

source roles = [8, 8, 40320, 1]

After

derived = [40320, 40320]

Conditions: none

EVERY k-element subset has exactly k! orderings.Ordered selections partition into equal fibers over their underlying subsets,so P=C*k!,C>0,and P/C=k!.At k=0 this remains1/1=1,not an estimated ratio or probability.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: Selection_EVERY_k_subset_has_k_factorial_orderings · Uses: G001, S020

Reverse checks

  • S021 · premise_and_result_audit — Reverse-audit THIS step against the ORIGINAL roles,complete premises and field order.Distinguish implication from equivalence;preserve originals,English,MKOs,ASTs and review states.Finite checks are not independent review or general formal proof.
  • S020 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL permutations over combinations with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S019 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL permutations divided by subset orderings with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S018 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor8 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S017 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor7 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S016 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor6 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S015 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor5 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S014 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor4 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S013 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor3 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S012 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor2 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S011 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Quotient ORIGINAL factorial factor1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S010 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position8 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S009 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position7 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S008 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position6 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S007 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position5 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S006 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position4 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S005 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position3 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S004 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position2 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S003 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute Permutation ORIGINAL available choices position1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S002 · premise_and_result_audit — Reverse-audit THIS step against the ORIGINAL roles,complete premises and field order.Distinguish implication from equivalence;preserve originals,English,MKOs,ASTs and review states.Finite checks are not independent review or general formal proof.
  • S001 · premise_and_result_audit — Reverse-audit THIS step against the ORIGINAL roles,complete premises and field order.Distinguish implication from equivalence;preserve originals,English,MKOs,ASTs and review states.Finite checks are not independent review or general formal proof.

Result

40320

The full substitutions and premise checks give the original answer; source identity,format and status are unchanged.

This question review and source binding

Review date: 2026-10-26

Original questions, answers, step expressions, numeric ASTs and historical records are retained. Source candidate labels remain historical and are not overwritten as formal proof.

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