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Question 3128: Comparing Two Directions of Conditional Probability

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  1. Original question and givens
  2. Definition and scope
  3. Step-by-step derivation
  4. Reverse checks
  5. Result
  6. This question review and source binding

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R0005-03128 · q-20261003-advance-20261004-r07-conditional-probability-0078

Original question and givens

The nonempty finite sample space is S={-10, -9, -8, -7}, with event family F=𝒫(S). In the displayed order of S, the nonnegative normalized weights are [2/(12), 3/(12), 4/(12), 3/(12)], summing exactly to one. A={-9, -8}, B={-9, -8}, and both P(A) and P(B) are positive. Are P(A|B) and P(B|A) equal?

  • G001 — The nonempty finite sample space is S={-10, -9, -8, -7}, with event family F=𝒫(S). In the displayed order of S, the nonnegative normalized weights are [2/(12), 3/(12), 4/(12), 3/(12)], summing exactly to one. A={-9, -8}, B={-9, -8}, and both P(A) and P(B) are positive. Are P(A|B) and P(B|A) equal?

Definition and scope

Use the original question domain, assumptions and cited MKO definitions. This item has second-context mathematical and bilingual review, with the model, answer and every arithmetic step independently recomputed from the original parameters; the source question remains a candidate.

Step-by-step derivation

S001 · implies

Before

S={-10, -9, -8, -7};A={-9, -8};B={-9, -8};F=𝒫(S)

After

events are declared subsets;conditioning needs P(B)>0

Conditions: none

𝒫(S) is the full event powerset,not a probability value.A nonempty event may have probability0.When checking B's eligibility,do not invent an unspecified A.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: conditional_model_domain · Uses: G001

S002 · implies

Before

A={-9, -8};B={-9, -8}

After

A∩B={-9, -8}

Conditions: none

The intersection keeps outcomes in both events;neither a union nor independence is assumed.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: explicit_event_intersection · Uses: G001, S001

S003 · calculation

Before

total weight numerator := sum(2, 3, 4, 3)

After

total weight numerator = 12

Conditions: none

Nonnegative weights must sum to the common positive denominator to give total probability1.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S002

S004 · implies

Before

[[-10, 2], [-9, 3], [-8, 4], [-7, 3]]

After

weights sum to 12;normalization verified

Conditions: none

Weights align with the original S order;do not sort S while leaving weights in their old positions.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: weight_alignment_and_normalization · Uses: G001, S003

S005 · calculation

Before

B weight numerator := sum(3, 4)

After

B weight numerator = 7

Conditions: none

Sum aligned weights over the event;zero-mass outcomes do not become positive mass.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S004

S006 · calculation

Before

B probability mass := div(7, 12)

After

B probability mass = 7/12

Conditions: none

Divide by the common positive denominator to obtain exact probability.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S005

S007 · calculation

Before

A∩B weight numerator := sum(3, 4)

After

A∩B weight numerator = 7

Conditions: none

Sum aligned weights over the event;zero-mass outcomes do not become positive mass.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S006

S008 · calculation

Before

A∩B probability mass := div(7, 12)

After

A∩B probability mass = 7/12

Conditions: none

Divide by the common positive denominator to obtain exact probability.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S007

S009 · calculation

Before

P(A|B) := div(7/12, 7/12)

After

P(A|B) = 1

Conditions: none

By definition divide the intersection probability by positive P(B);do not assume it equals P(A)P(B).

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S008

S010 · implies

Before

P(A∩B)=7/12;P(B)=7/12>0

After

P(A|B)=1

Conditions: none

Use the ratio only with the checked positive conditioning mass;a zero-mass intersection can validly yield conditional value0.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: conditional_ratio_positive_guard · Uses: G001, S009

S011 · calculation

Before

A weight numerator := sum(3, 4)

After

A weight numerator = 7

Conditions: none

Sum aligned weights over the event;zero-mass outcomes do not become positive mass.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S010

S012 · calculation

Before

A probability mass := div(7, 12)

After

A probability mass = 7/12

Conditions: none

Divide by the common positive denominator to obtain exact probability.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S011

S013 · calculation

Before

P(B|A) := div(7/12, 7/12)

After

P(B|A) = 1

Conditions: none

The reverse direction uses positive P(A),not P(B).

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S012

S014 · implies

Before

P(A|B)=1;P(B|A)=1

After

equal=Yes

Conditions: none

Equality of the two directions is only a numerical relation,not independence.Independence instead requires P(A∩B)=P(A)P(B);disjoint positive-probability events have both conditionals0 but are dependent.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: conditional_direction_not_independence · Uses: G001, S013

Reverse checks

  • S014 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S013 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute P(B|A) with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S012 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute A probability mass with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S011 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute A weight numerator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S010 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S009 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute P(A|B) with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S008 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute A∩B probability mass with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S007 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute A∩B weight numerator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S006 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute B probability mass with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S005 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute B weight numerator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S004 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S003 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute total weight numerator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S002 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S001 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.

Result

Yes

The full substitutions and premise checks give the original answer; source identity,format and status are unchanged.

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Review date: 2026-10-26

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