# Question 3129: Comparing Two Directions of Conditional Probability

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R0005-03129 · q-20261003-advance-20261004-r07-conditional-probability-0079



## Original question and givens

The nonempty finite sample space is S={-9, -8, -7, -6}, with event family F=𝒫(S). In the displayed order of S, the nonnegative normalized weights are [0/(13), 4/(13), 5/(13), 4/(13)], summing exactly to one. A={-9, -8, -7, -6}, B={-8, -7}, and both P(A) and P(B) are positive. Are P(A|B) and P(B|A) equal?


- G001 — The nonempty finite sample space is S={-9, -8, -7, -6}, with event family F=𝒫(S). In the displayed order of S, the nonnegative normalized weights are [0/(13), 4/(13), 5/(13), 4/(13)], summing exactly to one. A={-9, -8, -7, -6}, B={-8, -7}, and both P(A) and P(B) are positive. Are P(A|B) and P(B|A) equal?





## Definition and scope

Use the original question domain, assumptions and cited MKO definitions. This item has second-context mathematical and bilingual review, with the model, answer and every arithmetic step independently recomputed from the original parameters; the source question remains a candidate.


- [mko-conditional-probability](https://ocme.evemisslab.com/en/mko/mko-conditional-probability/)





## Step-by-step derivation

S001 · impliesBefore

S={-9, -8, -7, -6};A={-9, -8, -7, -6};B={-8, -7};F=𝒫(S)

After

events are declared subsets;conditioning needs P(B)>0

Conditions: none

𝒫(S) is the full event powerset,not a probability value.A nonempty event may have probability0.When checking B's eligibility,do not invent an unspecified A.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: conditional_model_domain · Uses: G001





S002 · impliesBefore

A={-9, -8, -7, -6};B={-8, -7}

After

A∩B={-8, -7}

Conditions: none

The intersection keeps outcomes in both events;neither a union nor independence is assumed.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: explicit_event_intersection · Uses: G001, S001





S003 · calculationBefore

total weight numerator := sum(0, 4, 5, 4)

After

total weight numerator = 13

Conditions: none

Nonnegative weights must sum to the common positive denominator to give total probability1.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S002





S004 · impliesBefore

[[-9, 0], [-8, 4], [-7, 5], [-6, 4]]

After

weights sum to 13;normalization verified

Conditions: none

Weights align with the original S order;do not sort S while leaving weights in their old positions.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: weight_alignment_and_normalization · Uses: G001, S003





S005 · calculationBefore

B weight numerator := sum(4, 5)

After

B weight numerator = 9

Conditions: none

Sum aligned weights over the event;zero-mass outcomes do not become positive mass.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S004





S006 · calculationBefore

B probability mass := div(9, 13)

After

B probability mass = 9/13

Conditions: none

Divide by the common positive denominator to obtain exact probability.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S005





S007 · calculationBefore

A∩B weight numerator := sum(4, 5)

After

A∩B weight numerator = 9

Conditions: none

Sum aligned weights over the event;zero-mass outcomes do not become positive mass.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S006





S008 · calculationBefore

A∩B probability mass := div(9, 13)

After

A∩B probability mass = 9/13

Conditions: none

Divide by the common positive denominator to obtain exact probability.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S007





S009 · calculationBefore

P(A|B) := div(9/13, 9/13)

After

P(A|B) = 1

Conditions: none

By definition divide the intersection probability by positive P(B);do not assume it equals P(A)P(B).

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S008





S010 · impliesBefore

P(A∩B)=9/13;P(B)=9/13>0

After

P(A|B)=1

Conditions: none

Use the ratio only with the checked positive conditioning mass;a zero-mass intersection can validly yield conditional value0.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: conditional_ratio_positive_guard · Uses: G001, S009





S011 · calculationBefore

A weight numerator := sum(0, 4, 5, 4)

After

A weight numerator = 13

Conditions: none

Sum aligned weights over the event;zero-mass outcomes do not become positive mass.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S010





S012 · calculationBefore

A probability mass := div(13, 13)

After

A probability mass = 1

Conditions: none

Divide by the common positive denominator to obtain exact probability.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S011





S013 · calculationBefore

P(B|A) := div(9/13, 1)

After

P(B|A) = 9/13

Conditions: none

The reverse direction uses positive P(A),not P(B).

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S012





S014 · impliesBefore

P(A|B)=1;P(B|A)=9/13

After

equal=No

Conditions: none

Equality of the two directions is only a numerical relation,not independence.Independence instead requires P(A∩B)=P(A)P(B);disjoint positive-probability events have both conditionals0 but are dependent.

Step identifiers and dependenciesRule: conditional_direction_not_independence · Uses: G001, S013









## Reverse checks


- S014 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
- S013 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute P(B|A) with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S012 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute A probability mass with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S011 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute A weight numerator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S010 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
- S009 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute P(A|B) with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S008 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute A∩B probability mass with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S007 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute A∩B weight numerator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S006 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute B probability mass with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S005 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute B weight numerator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S004 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
- S003 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute total weight numerator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
- S002 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
- S001 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.





## Result

No

The full substitutions and premise checks give the original answer; source identity,format and status are unchanged.





## This question review and source binding

Review date: 2026-10-26

Original questions, answers, step expressions, numeric ASTs and historical records are retained. Source candidate labels remain historical and are not overwritten as formal proof.

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