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Question 6746: Reported Factorials versus Exact Values and Recurrence

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  1. Original question and givens
  2. Definition and scope
  3. Step-by-step derivation
  4. Reverse checks
  5. Result
  6. This question review and source binding

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R0012-06746 · q-20261010-advance-20261014-r05-factorial-0071

Original question and givens

N begins at 0, F(0)=0!=1, and factorials use exact integer arithmetic, not floating point. n=20; candidate decimal integer strings u=2432902008176640000, v=51090942171709440001. Give (actual F(n), actual F(n+1), u−F(n), v−(n+1)u, are both reports correct?).

  • G001 — N begins at 0, F(0)=0!=1, and factorials use exact integer arithmetic, not floating point. n=20; candidate decimal integer strings u=2432902008176640000, v=51090942171709440001. Give (actual F(n), actual F(n+1), u−F(n), v−(n+1)u, are both reports correct?).

Definition and scope

Use the original question domain, assumptions and cited MKO definitions. This item has second-context mathematical and bilingual review, with the model, answer and every arithmetic step independently recomputed from the original parameters; the source question remains a candidate.

Step-by-step derivation

S001 · implies

Before

N includes0;F(0)=1;F(j)=j·F(j−1)

After

exact integer products,not floating values or a permutation proof

Conditions: none

Use empty product1 and integer factor multiplication,retaining large values exactly.This finite recurrence audit is not a general proof of permutation counting.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_factorial_protocol · Uses: G001

S002 · implies

Before

actual factorial:start at F(0)

After

F(0)=1

Conditions: none

The product of zero factors is1,not0;this is the successor recurrence's base.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: factorial_empty_product_base · Uses: G001, S001

S003 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor1 := mul(1, 1)

After

actual factorial through factor1 = 1

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S002

S004 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor2 := mul(1, 2)

After

actual factorial through factor2 = 2

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S003

S005 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor3 := mul(2, 3)

After

actual factorial through factor3 = 6

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S004

S006 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor4 := mul(6, 4)

After

actual factorial through factor4 = 24

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S005

S007 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor5 := mul(24, 5)

After

actual factorial through factor5 = 120

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S006

S008 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor6 := mul(120, 6)

After

actual factorial through factor6 = 720

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S007

S009 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor7 := mul(720, 7)

After

actual factorial through factor7 = 5040

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S008

S010 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor8 := mul(5040, 8)

After

actual factorial through factor8 = 40320

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S009

S011 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor9 := mul(40320, 9)

After

actual factorial through factor9 = 362880

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S010

S012 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor10 := mul(362880, 10)

After

actual factorial through factor10 = 3628800

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S011

S013 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor11 := mul(3628800, 11)

After

actual factorial through factor11 = 39916800

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S012

S014 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor12 := mul(39916800, 12)

After

actual factorial through factor12 = 479001600

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S013

S015 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor13 := mul(479001600, 13)

After

actual factorial through factor13 = 6227020800

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S014

S016 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor14 := mul(6227020800, 14)

After

actual factorial through factor14 = 87178291200

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S015

S017 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor15 := mul(87178291200, 15)

After

actual factorial through factor15 = 1307674368000

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S016

S018 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor16 := mul(1307674368000, 16)

After

actual factorial through factor16 = 20922789888000

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S017

S019 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor17 := mul(20922789888000, 17)

After

actual factorial through factor17 = 355687428096000

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S018

S020 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor18 := mul(355687428096000, 18)

After

actual factorial through factor18 = 6402373705728000

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S019

S021 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor19 := mul(6402373705728000, 19)

After

actual factorial through factor19 = 121645100408832000

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S020

S022 · calculation

Before

actual factorial through factor20 := mul(121645100408832000, 20)

After

actual factorial through factor20 = 2432902008176640000

Conditions: none

Multiply the preceding factorial by the new positive integer factor,retaining every exact intermediate.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S021

S023 · calculation

Before

true successor factorial := mul(21, 2432902008176640000)

After

true successor factorial = 51090942171709440000

Conditions: none

Compute F(n+1)=(n+1)F(n).

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S022

S024 · calculation

Before

reported u minus true factorial := sub(2432902008176640000, 2432902008176640000)

After

reported u minus true factorial = 0

Conditions: none

Compare reported u with the independently computed true factorial,not merely consistency between the reports.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S023

S025 · calculation

Before

successor predicted from reported u := mul(21, 2432902008176640000)

After

successor predicted from reported u = 51090942171709440000

Conditions: none

Form the candidate successor from reported u,separate from the true successor.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S024

S026 · calculation

Before

reported successor recurrence defect := sub(51090942171709440001, 51090942171709440000)

After

reported successor recurrence defect = 1

Conditions: none

The recurrence defect is v−(n+1)u;it may be0 while both reports are wrong.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S025

S027 · implies

Before

true values=(2432902008176640000,51090942171709440000);reports=(2432902008176640000,51090942171709440001);defects=(0,1)

After

both reports true=No

Conditions: none

Check both true F(n) and true F(n+1);a zero self-reported recurrence defect is not evidence.The original decimal strings remain retained.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: factorial_report_requires_true_anchor · Uses: G001, S026

Reverse checks

  • S027 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S026 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute reported successor recurrence defect with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S025 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute successor predicted from reported u with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S024 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute reported u minus true factorial with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S023 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute true successor factorial with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S022 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor20 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S021 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor19 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S020 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor18 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S019 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor17 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S018 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor16 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S017 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor15 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S016 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor14 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S015 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor13 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S014 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor12 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S013 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor11 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S012 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor10 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S011 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor9 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S010 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor8 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S009 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor7 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S008 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor6 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S007 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor5 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S006 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor4 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S005 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor3 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S004 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor2 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S003 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute actual factorial through factor1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S002 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S001 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.

Result

(2432902008176640000, 51090942171709440000, 0, 1, No)

The full substitutions and premise checks give the original answer; source identity,format and status are unchanged.

This question review and source binding

Review date: 2026-10-26

Original questions, answers, step expressions, numeric ASTs and historical records are retained. Source candidate labels remain historical and are not overwritten as formal proof.

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