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Question 7345: Both Matrix Product Orders, Determinants, and Equality

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  1. Original question and givens
  2. Definition and scope
  3. Step-by-step derivation
  4. Reverse checks
  5. Result
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R0013-07345 · q-20261012-advance-20261016-r04-determinant-0070

Original question and givens

Use signed determinants of real 2×2 matrices with integer entries; ordinary matrix products are row-by-column, not entrywise products. Real-field invertibility is not integer-ring invertibility. M=[[7, 1], [0, 1]], N=[[1, 0], [2, 1]]. Give (MN, NM, D(MN), D(NM), D(M)D(N), are MN and NM equal?).

  • G001 — Use signed determinants of real 2×2 matrices with integer entries; ordinary matrix products are row-by-column, not entrywise products. Real-field invertibility is not integer-ring invertibility. M=[[7, 1], [0, 1]], N=[[1, 0], [2, 1]]. Give (MN, NM, D(MN), D(NM), D(M)D(N), are MN and NM equal?).

Definition and scope

Use the original question domain, assumptions and cited MKO definitions. This item has second-context mathematical and bilingual review, with the model, answer and every arithmetic step independently recomputed from the original parameters; the source question remains a candidate.

Step-by-step derivation

S001 · implies

Before

[[7, 1], [0, 1]]

After

real2×2 integer-entry slice;determinants are signed

Conditions: none

Compute the signed determinant ad−bc,not its absolute value;matrix multiplication uses row-by-column,not entrywise products.This finite audit is not a general formal proof.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: signed_two_by_two_determinant_scope · Uses: G001

S002 · calculation

Before

M diagonal product := mul(7, 1)

After

M diagonal product = 7

Conditions: none

Multiply the main diagonal entries a·d.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S001

S003 · calculation

Before

M off-diagonal product := mul(1, 0)

After

M off-diagonal product = 0

Conditions: none

Multiply the off-diagonal entries b·c separately,retaining subtraction.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S002

S004 · calculation

Before

M signed determinant := sub(7, 0)

After

M signed determinant = 7

Conditions: none

Subtract the terms,retaining the sign.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S003

S005 · calculation

Before

MN entry0,0 term0 := mul(7, 1)

After

MN entry0,0 term0 = 7

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S004

S006 · calculation

Before

MN entry0,0 term1 := mul(1, 2)

After

MN entry0,0 term1 = 2

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S005

S007 · calculation

Before

MN entry0,0 := sum(7, 2)

After

MN entry0,0 = 9

Conditions: none

Add the two row-column products to obtain this cell.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S006

S008 · implies

Before

product=MN;row=0;column=0;terms=[7, 2]

After

entry=9

Conditions: none

Retain row/column positions;do not interchange MN and NM or use entrywise multiplication.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: row_column_matrix_product_cell · Uses: G001, S007

S009 · calculation

Before

MN entry0,1 term0 := mul(7, 0)

After

MN entry0,1 term0 = 0

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S008

S010 · calculation

Before

MN entry0,1 term1 := mul(1, 1)

After

MN entry0,1 term1 = 1

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S009

S011 · calculation

Before

MN entry0,1 := sum(0, 1)

After

MN entry0,1 = 1

Conditions: none

Add the two row-column products to obtain this cell.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S010

S012 · implies

Before

product=MN;row=0;column=1;terms=[0, 1]

After

entry=1

Conditions: none

Retain row/column positions;do not interchange MN and NM or use entrywise multiplication.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: row_column_matrix_product_cell · Uses: G001, S011

S013 · calculation

Before

MN entry1,0 term0 := mul(0, 1)

After

MN entry1,0 term0 = 0

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S012

S014 · calculation

Before

MN entry1,0 term1 := mul(1, 2)

After

MN entry1,0 term1 = 2

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S013

S015 · calculation

Before

MN entry1,0 := sum(0, 2)

After

MN entry1,0 = 2

Conditions: none

Add the two row-column products to obtain this cell.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S014

S016 · implies

Before

product=MN;row=1;column=0;terms=[0, 2]

After

entry=2

Conditions: none

Retain row/column positions;do not interchange MN and NM or use entrywise multiplication.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: row_column_matrix_product_cell · Uses: G001, S015

S017 · calculation

Before

MN entry1,1 term0 := mul(0, 0)

After

MN entry1,1 term0 = 0

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S016

S018 · calculation

Before

MN entry1,1 term1 := mul(1, 1)

After

MN entry1,1 term1 = 1

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S017

S019 · calculation

Before

MN entry1,1 := sum(0, 1)

After

MN entry1,1 = 1

Conditions: none

Add the two row-column products to obtain this cell.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S018

S020 · implies

Before

product=MN;row=1;column=1;terms=[0, 1]

After

entry=1

Conditions: none

Retain row/column positions;do not interchange MN and NM or use entrywise multiplication.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: row_column_matrix_product_cell · Uses: G001, S019

S021 · calculation

Before

NM entry0,0 term0 := mul(1, 7)

After

NM entry0,0 term0 = 7

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S020

S022 · calculation

Before

NM entry0,0 term1 := mul(0, 0)

After

NM entry0,0 term1 = 0

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S021

S023 · calculation

Before

NM entry0,0 := sum(7, 0)

After

NM entry0,0 = 7

Conditions: none

Add the two row-column products to obtain this cell.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S022

S024 · implies

Before

product=NM;row=0;column=0;terms=[7, 0]

After

entry=7

Conditions: none

Retain row/column positions;do not interchange MN and NM or use entrywise multiplication.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: row_column_matrix_product_cell · Uses: G001, S023

S025 · calculation

Before

NM entry0,1 term0 := mul(1, 1)

After

NM entry0,1 term0 = 1

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S024

S026 · calculation

Before

NM entry0,1 term1 := mul(0, 1)

After

NM entry0,1 term1 = 0

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S025

S027 · calculation

Before

NM entry0,1 := sum(1, 0)

After

NM entry0,1 = 1

Conditions: none

Add the two row-column products to obtain this cell.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S026

S028 · implies

Before

product=NM;row=0;column=1;terms=[1, 0]

After

entry=1

Conditions: none

Retain row/column positions;do not interchange MN and NM or use entrywise multiplication.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: row_column_matrix_product_cell · Uses: G001, S027

S029 · calculation

Before

NM entry1,0 term0 := mul(2, 7)

After

NM entry1,0 term0 = 14

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S028

S030 · calculation

Before

NM entry1,0 term1 := mul(1, 0)

After

NM entry1,0 term1 = 0

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S029

S031 · calculation

Before

NM entry1,0 := sum(14, 0)

After

NM entry1,0 = 14

Conditions: none

Add the two row-column products to obtain this cell.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S030

S032 · implies

Before

product=NM;row=1;column=0;terms=[14, 0]

After

entry=14

Conditions: none

Retain row/column positions;do not interchange MN and NM or use entrywise multiplication.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: row_column_matrix_product_cell · Uses: G001, S031

S033 · calculation

Before

NM entry1,1 term0 := mul(2, 1)

After

NM entry1,1 term0 = 2

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S032

S034 · calculation

Before

NM entry1,1 term1 := mul(1, 1)

After

NM entry1,1 term1 = 1

Conditions: none

Multiply the matching k-components of left row i and right column j.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S033

S035 · calculation

Before

NM entry1,1 := sum(2, 1)

After

NM entry1,1 = 3

Conditions: none

Add the two row-column products to obtain this cell.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S034

S036 · implies

Before

product=NM;row=1;column=1;terms=[2, 1]

After

entry=3

Conditions: none

Retain row/column positions;do not interchange MN and NM or use entrywise multiplication.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: row_column_matrix_product_cell · Uses: G001, S035

S037 · calculation

Before

MN diagonal product := mul(9, 1)

After

MN diagonal product = 9

Conditions: none

Multiply the main diagonal entries a·d.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S036

S038 · calculation

Before

MN off-diagonal product := mul(1, 2)

After

MN off-diagonal product = 2

Conditions: none

Multiply the off-diagonal entries b·c separately,retaining subtraction.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S037

S039 · calculation

Before

MN signed determinant := sub(9, 2)

After

MN signed determinant = 7

Conditions: none

Subtract the terms,retaining the sign.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S038

S040 · calculation

Before

NM diagonal product := mul(7, 3)

After

NM diagonal product = 21

Conditions: none

Multiply the main diagonal entries a·d.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S039

S041 · calculation

Before

NM off-diagonal product := mul(1, 14)

After

NM off-diagonal product = 14

Conditions: none

Multiply the off-diagonal entries b·c separately,retaining subtraction.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S040

S042 · calculation

Before

NM signed determinant := sub(21, 14)

After

NM signed determinant = 7

Conditions: none

Subtract the terms,retaining the sign.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S041

S043 · calculation

Before

N diagonal product := mul(1, 1)

After

N diagonal product = 1

Conditions: none

Multiply the main diagonal entries a·d.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S042

S044 · calculation

Before

N off-diagonal product := mul(0, 2)

After

N off-diagonal product = 0

Conditions: none

Multiply the off-diagonal entries b·c separately,retaining subtraction.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S043

S045 · calculation

Before

N signed determinant := sub(1, 0)

After

N signed determinant = 1

Conditions: none

Subtract the terms,retaining the sign.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S044

S046 · calculation

Before

product of original determinants := mul(7, 1)

After

product of original determinants = 7

Conditions: none

Multiply the two original signed determinants separately.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S045

S047 · implies

Before

MN=[[9, 1], [2, 1]];NM=[[7, 1], [14, 3]];determinants=(7,7)

After

matrices equal=No;D(M)D(N)=7

Conditions: none

Both product determinants here equal D(M)D(N),but matrix equality still requires every cell to agree.Equal determinants do not imply MN=NM.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: determinant_product_not_matrix_commutation · Uses: G001, S046

Reverse checks

  • S047 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S046 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute product of original determinants with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S045 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute N signed determinant with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S044 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute N off-diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S043 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute N diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S042 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM signed determinant with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S041 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM off-diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S040 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S039 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN signed determinant with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S038 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN off-diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S037 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S036 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S035 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry1,1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S034 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry1,1 term1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S033 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry1,1 term0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S032 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S031 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry1,0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S030 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry1,0 term1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S029 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry1,0 term0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S028 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S027 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry0,1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S026 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry0,1 term1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S025 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry0,1 term0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S024 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S023 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry0,0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S022 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry0,0 term1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S021 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute NM entry0,0 term0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S020 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S019 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry1,1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S018 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry1,1 term1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S017 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry1,1 term0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S016 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S015 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry1,0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S014 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry1,0 term1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S013 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry1,0 term0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S012 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S011 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry0,1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S010 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry0,1 term1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S009 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry0,1 term0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S008 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S007 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry0,0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S006 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry0,0 term1 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S005 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute MN entry0,0 term0 with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S004 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute M signed determinant with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S003 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute M off-diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S002 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute M diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S001 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.

Result

([[9, 1], [2, 1]], [[7, 1], [14, 3]], 7, 7, 7, No)

The full substitutions and premise checks give the original answer; source identity,format and status are unchanged.

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Review date: 2026-10-26

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