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Question 13833: A Symmetric Sylvester Certificate, Not Positive Sample Values

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  1. Original question and givens
  2. Definition and scope
  3. Step-by-step derivation
  4. Reverse checks
  5. Result
  6. This question review and source binding

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R0026-13833 · q-20261014-advance-20261028-r04-real-inner-product-space-0058

Original question and givens

Use the exact real R² candidate B(x,y)=x^T A y with the complete integer matrix A=[[8, 0], [0, 0]]. Bilinearity follows from the formula; symmetry and strict positive definiteness remain separate obligations. For a symmetric 2-by-2 matrix the Sylvester certificate requires a positive leading entry and positive determinant. Positive semidefiniteness or finitely many positive samples are insufficient, and completeness is not inferred. Give (matrix,symmetric?,leading_minor,determinant,positive_definite?,Sylvester_R2_universal_certificate). In this inner-product protocol the positive_definite flag conjoins symmetry, a positive leading minor and positive determinant.

  • G001 — Use the exact real R² candidate B(x,y)=x^T A y with the complete integer matrix A=[[8, 0], [0, 0]]. Bilinearity follows from the formula; symmetry and strict positive definiteness remain separate obligations. For a symmetric 2-by-2 matrix the Sylvester certificate requires a positive leading entry and positive determinant. Positive semidefiniteness or finitely many positive samples are insufficient, and completeness is not inferred. Give (matrix,symmetric?,leading_minor,determinant,positive_definite?,Sylvester_R2_universal_certificate). In this inner-product protocol the positive_definite flag conjoins symmetry, a positive leading minor and positive determinant.

Definition and scope

Use the original question domain, assumptions and cited MKO definitions. This item has second-context mathematical and bilingual review, with the model, answer and every arithmetic step independently recomputed from the original parameters; the source question remains a candidate.

Step-by-step derivation

S001 · implies

Before

candidate real R2 form;matrix=[[8, 0], [0, 0]];B(x,y)=x^T*A*y

After

matrix distributivity supplies bilinearity;other inner-product obligations remain separate

Conditions: none

The matrix formula is bilinear without presuming symmetry or positive definiteness.This protocol is real R²,not a complex-conjugate or arbitrary-dimensional claim.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: inner_candidate_bilinear_not_presumed_inner_product · Uses: G001

S002 · implies

Before

opposite off-diagonal entries=[0, 0]

After

symmetric=Yes

Conditions: none

Standard basis vectors read off matrix entries,so symmetry is equivalent to equality of the two off-diagonal entries.One pairwise equality cannot establish universal symmetry.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: inner_symmetry_additional_to_bilinearity · Uses: G001, S001

S003 · calculation

Before

inner determinant diagonal product := mul(8, 0)

After

inner determinant diagonal product = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S002

S004 · calculation

Before

inner determinant off-diagonal product := mul(0, 0)

After

inner determinant off-diagonal product = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S003

S005 · calculation

Before

inner signed determinant := sub(0, 0)

After

inner signed determinant = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S004

S006 · calculation

Before

inner completed-square slope := div(0, 8)

After

inner completed-square slope = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S005

S007 · calculation

Before

inner completed-square remainder := div(0, 8)

After

inner completed-square remainder = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S006

S008 · implies

Before

symmetric matrix=[[8, 0], [0, 0]];positive leading=8;b/a=0;det/a=0

After

q(s,t)=(8)*(s+(0)*t)^2+(0)*t^2

Conditions: none

Complete the square only after a>0.If det>0,the second term is positive for t≠0;when t=0 and s≠0,the first is positive.Conversely strict positivity first gives a>0 at e1,then det/a>0 at s=−b/a,t=1.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: R2_Sylvester_completed_square_identity · Uses: G001, S007

S009 · implies

Before

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot:matrix=[[8, 0], [0, 0]];input=[0, 8]

After

input dimension=2;output dimension=2;rows dot input

Conditions: none

Retain column-input/row-output roles for rectangular matrices.Computed values can exceed raw input bounds and are not clipped.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: matrix_row_column_roles · Uses: G001, S008

S010 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 column0 product := mul(8, 0)

After

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 column0 product = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S009

S011 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 column1 product := mul(0, 8)

After

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 column1 product = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S010

S012 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 sum := sum(0, 0)

After

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 sum = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S011

S013 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 column0 product := mul(0, 0)

After

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 column0 product = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S012

S014 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 column1 product := mul(0, 8)

After

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 column1 product = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S013

S015 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 sum := sum(0, 0)

After

nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 sum = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S014

S016 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness first coordinate0 product := mul(0, 0)

After

nonpositive determinant witness first coordinate0 product = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S015

S017 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness first coordinate1 product := mul(8, 0)

After

nonpositive determinant witness first coordinate1 product = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S016

S018 · calculation

Before

nonpositive determinant witness bilinear sum := sum(0, 0)

After

nonpositive determinant witness bilinear sum = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining coordinates,coefficients,signs and necessary guards.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S017

S019 · implies

Before

nonzero witness=[0, 8];q(witness)=0=leading*determinant

After

strict positivity fails;zero determinant is not strict positive definiteness

Conditions: none

Positive a makes this vector nonzero;det≤0 gives a nonpositive value,including the zero-value failure of semidefiniteness.Positive samples do not repair it.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: nonpositive_determinant_actual_countervector · Uses: G001, S018

S020 · implies

Before

symmetric=Yes;leading=8;determinant=0

After

strict symmetric R2 certificate=No

Conditions: none

Conjoin symmetry,positive leading minor and positive determinant.This is the stated symmetric R² inner-product protocol,with no additional completeness claim.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: strict_Sylvester_conditions_conjunction · Uses: G001, S019

Reverse checks

  • S020 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S019 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S018 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness bilinear sum with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S017 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness first coordinate1 product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S016 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness first coordinate0 product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S015 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 sum with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S014 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 column1 product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S013 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row1 column0 product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S012 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 sum with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S011 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 column1 product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S010 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute nonpositive determinant witness matrix second slot row0 column0 product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S009 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S008 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S007 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute inner completed-square remainder with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S006 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute inner completed-square slope with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S005 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute inner signed determinant with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S004 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute inner determinant off-diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S003 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute inner determinant diagonal product with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S002 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S001 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.

Result

([[8, 0], [0, 0]], Yes, 8, 0, No, Sylvester_R2_universal_certificate)

The full substitutions and premise checks give the original answer; source identity,format and status are unchanged.

This question review and source binding

Review date: 2026-10-26

Original questions, answers, step expressions, numeric ASTs and historical records are retained. Source candidate labels remain historical and are not overwritten as formal proof.

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