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Question 15974: Quotient Multiplication Must Respect the Same Ideal

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  1. Original question and givens
  2. Definition and scope
  3. Step-by-step derivation
  4. Reverse checks
  5. Result
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R0030-15974 · q-20261014-advance-20261031-r04-finite-quotient-ring-0074

Original question and givens

Use the parent ring Z_30 with residues 0 through 29 and the proper two-sided ideal I of multiples of d=5, where 2≤d≤n and d divides n. Its cosets are residue classes modulo d, ordered by representatives 0 through d−1 with increasing members. The d=n zero ideal is allowed; d=1 gives I=R and is excluded by the project's 1≠0 convention. Retain parent arithmetic modulo n separately from the quotient class label modulo d. No field conclusion follows. Parent representatives a=23, b=17. Give (class_a,class_b,parent_result,result_class,[a][b]=[ab]).

  • G001 — Use the parent ring Z_30 with residues 0 through 29 and the proper two-sided ideal I of multiples of d=5, where 2≤d≤n and d divides n. Its cosets are residue classes modulo d, ordered by representatives 0 through d−1 with increasing members. The d=n zero ideal is allowed; d=1 gives I=R and is excluded by the project's 1≠0 convention. Retain parent arithmetic modulo n separately from the quotient class label modulo d. No field conclusion follows. Parent representatives a=23, b=17. Give (class_a,class_b,parent_result,result_class,[a][b]=[ab]).

Definition and scope

Use the original question domain, assumptions and cited MKO definitions. This item has second-context mathematical and bilingual review, with the model, answer and every arithmetic step independently recomputed from the original parameters; the source question remains a candidate.

Step-by-step derivation

S001 · calculation

Before

quotient ring parent modulus divided by ideal generator := div(30, 5)

After

quotient ring parent modulus divided by ideal generator = 6

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001

S002 · implies

Before

same declared parent Z_30;generator d=5;n/d=6;ideal multiples=[0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25]

After

I=kernel of residue map Z_30 to Z_5;proper two-sided ideal=Yes;zero ideal allowed when d=n

Conditions: none

Since d divides n,changing an integer representative by n does not change mod d.The map π:Z_n→Z_d is well-defined and preserves addition and multiplication.Its kernel consists of multiples of d,closed under differences and multiplication on either side by parent elements.With d≥2 it excludes1 and is proper;d=n gives the allowed zero ideal.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: quotient_ring_actual_parent_proper_two_sided_ideal · Uses: G001, S001

S003 · implies

Before

complete parent residues=[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29];same ideal I=[0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25]

After

all additive cosets in representative order0..d-1=[[0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25], [1, 6, 11, 16, 21, 26], [2, 7, 12, 17, 22, 27], [3, 8, 13, 18, 23, 28], [4, 9, 14, 19, 24, 29]];quotient size=5;no field conclusion

Conditions: none

List every parent element congruent mod d in each additive coset,ordered by representatives0 through d−1.They are disjoint and cover Z_n.Quotient elements are whole cosets;class labels are indices only,and a finite quotient ring is not automatically a field.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: quotient_ring_full_cosets_not_representative_carrier · Uses: G001, S002

S004 · calculation

Before

first input coset exact quotient fraction := div(23, 5)

After

first input coset exact quotient fraction = 23/5

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S003

S005 · implies

Before

first input coset:integer value=23;positive modulus=5;exact ratio=23/5

After

floor quotient=4;quotient<=ratio<quotient+1

Conditions: none

Take the exact rational quotient and its floor q,not the rational division result as a residue.With positive modulus,q≤value/m<q+1,so subtraction of qm yields a residue from0 through m−1.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: modular_Euclidean_floor_not_rational_division_result · Uses: G001, S004

S006 · calculation

Before

first input coset quotient multiple := mul(4, 5)

After

first input coset quotient multiple = 20

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S005

S007 · calculation

Before

first input coset canonical nonnegative residue := sub(23, 20)

After

first input coset canonical nonnegative residue = 3

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S006

S008 · calculation

Before

second input coset exact quotient fraction := div(17, 5)

After

second input coset exact quotient fraction = 17/5

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S007

S009 · implies

Before

second input coset:integer value=17;positive modulus=5;exact ratio=17/5

After

floor quotient=3;quotient<=ratio<quotient+1

Conditions: none

Take the exact rational quotient and its floor q,not the rational division result as a residue.With positive modulus,q≤value/m<q+1,so subtraction of qm yields a residue from0 through m−1.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: modular_Euclidean_floor_not_rational_division_result · Uses: G001, S008

S010 · calculation

Before

second input coset quotient multiple := mul(3, 5)

After

second input coset quotient multiple = 15

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S009

S011 · calculation

Before

second input coset canonical nonnegative residue := sub(17, 15)

After

second input coset canonical nonnegative residue = 2

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S010

S012 · calculation

Before

selected quotient operation integer multiplication := mul(23, 17)

After

selected quotient operation integer multiplication = 391

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S011

S013 · calculation

Before

selected quotient operation parent mod n exact quotient fraction := div(391, 30)

After

selected quotient operation parent mod n exact quotient fraction = 391/30

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S012

S014 · implies

Before

selected quotient operation parent mod n:integer value=391;positive modulus=30;exact ratio=391/30

After

floor quotient=13;quotient<=ratio<quotient+1

Conditions: none

Take the exact rational quotient and its floor q,not the rational division result as a residue.With positive modulus,q≤value/m<q+1,so subtraction of qm yields a residue from0 through m−1.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: modular_Euclidean_floor_not_rational_division_result · Uses: G001, S013

S015 · calculation

Before

selected quotient operation parent mod n quotient multiple := mul(13, 30)

After

selected quotient operation parent mod n quotient multiple = 390

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S014

S016 · calculation

Before

selected quotient operation parent mod n canonical nonnegative residue := sub(391, 390)

After

selected quotient operation parent mod n canonical nonnegative residue = 1

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S015

S017 · calculation

Before

selected quotient operation quotient class mod d exact quotient fraction := div(1, 5)

After

selected quotient operation quotient class mod d exact quotient fraction = 1/5

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S016

S018 · implies

Before

selected quotient operation quotient class mod d:integer value=1;positive modulus=5;exact ratio=1/5

After

floor quotient=0;quotient<=ratio<quotient+1

Conditions: none

Take the exact rational quotient and its floor q,not the rational division result as a residue.With positive modulus,q≤value/m<q+1,so subtraction of qm yields a residue from0 through m−1.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: modular_Euclidean_floor_not_rational_division_result · Uses: G001, S017

S019 · calculation

Before

selected quotient operation quotient class mod d quotient multiple := mul(0, 5)

After

selected quotient operation quotient class mod d quotient multiple = 0

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S018

S020 · calculation

Before

selected quotient operation quotient class mod d canonical nonnegative residue := sub(1, 0)

After

selected quotient operation quotient class mod d canonical nonnegative residue = 1

Conditions: none

Compute exactly from original roles and established intermediates,retaining indices,signs,denominators and the operation's carrier.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: exact_rational_arithmetic · Uses: G001, S019

S021 · implies

Before

selected quotient operation:original parent representatives=[23, 17];integer result=391;parent modulus=30

After

parent result=1;quotient class label=1;class modulus=5

Conditions: none

Operate in the specified parent modulo n,then take the quotient class modulo d.These fields can differ;do not conflate their residues or confuse a class label with its full coset.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: quotient_operation_parent_result_separate_from_class · Uses: G001, S020

S022 · implies

Before

same parent Z_30;same proper two-sided ideal I=[0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25];input class labels=[3, 2]

After

quotient operation law=[a][b]=[ab];result class label=1

Conditions: none

Additive cosets use the additive subgroup,but multiplication also requires the two-sided ideal absorption for representative independence.Apply the law under this same qualified ideal,not to arbitrary quotient sets.

Step identifiers and dependencies

Rule: quotient_ring_operation_uses_ideal_not_arbitrary_equivalence · Uses: G001, S021

Reverse checks

  • S022 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S021 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S020 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute selected quotient operation quotient class mod d canonical nonnegative residue with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S019 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute selected quotient operation quotient class mod d quotient multiple with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S018 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S017 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute selected quotient operation quotient class mod d exact quotient fraction with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S016 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute selected quotient operation parent mod n canonical nonnegative residue with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S015 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute selected quotient operation parent mod n quotient multiple with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S014 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S013 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute selected quotient operation parent mod n exact quotient fraction with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S012 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute selected quotient operation integer multiplication with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S011 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute second input coset canonical nonnegative residue with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S010 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute second input coset quotient multiple with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S009 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S008 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute second input coset exact quotient fraction with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S007 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute first input coset canonical nonnegative residue with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S006 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute first input coset quotient multiple with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S005 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S004 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute first input coset exact quotient fraction with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.
  • S003 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S002 · premise_and_result_audit — Check against the original data and this step's premises; a one-way implication is not an equivalence.
  • S001 · premise_and_result_audit — Recompute quotient ring parent modulus divided by ideal generator with exact rational arithmetic, not rounded decimals.

Result

(3, 2, 1, 1, [a][b]=[ab])

The full substitutions and premise checks give the original answer; source identity,format and status are unchanged.

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Review date: 2026-10-26

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